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Section sizes

Section size for 2024 Atlantic hurricane season (19 sections)
Section name	Byte count	Section total
(Top)	3,217	3,217
Seasonal forecasts	14,495	19,486
Pre-season forecasts	4,060	4,060
Mid-season forecasts	931	931
Seasonal summary	2,148	9,547
Background	1,199	1,199
Early activity	6,200	6,200
Systems	14	49,007
Tropical Storm Alberto	8,256	8,256
Hurricane Beryl	20,189	20,189
Tropical Storm Chris	4,607	4,607
Hurricane Debby	5,976	5,976
Hurricane Ernesto	9,965	9,965
Storm names	2,023	2,023
Season effects	3,973	3,973
See also	676	676
Notes	34	34
References	30	30
External links	411	411
Total	88,404	88,404

Chris article?

Since its been confirmed that there were 5 deaths associated with Tropical Storm Chris, which is a large amount, could an article for the storm be necessary? There is certainly notability involving 5 deaths and a fair amount of flooding in Mexico, though before I start a draft, I'd like to hear others opinions. We could also just start a draft and see how much info there is to find. Shmego (talk) 19:28, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I was searching the talk page for a discussion on this. I have done a search of several Mexican newspapers and found sufficient evidence that Chris had a large impact as far inland as Mexico City. According to the Tropical cyclone article notability guidelines, Chris could verify under Sections 4 and 5 as it caused five fatalities and had multiple stories across multiple Mexican newspapers, but I cannot find any damage statistics. You could begin a draft and see where it goes but you would have to prove it is worthy of being in the main space.IrishSurfer21 (talk) 00:26, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have began a draft here, I believe there is more than enough information to have an article. Especially since there is now a sixth fatality.IrishSurfer21 (talk) 13:20, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just a quick note, those guidelines are more or less outdated. WP:NWX is the more current guidelines. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 15:20, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like the draft has been moved to the namespace. That was fast. _ZZ^Z 'S 16:20, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding indirect deaths

Do deaths due to tornadoes and deaths due to hyperthermia / heat exposure during power outages count toward indirect storm fatalities? These seem to me to be a step removed from what are usually considered as indirect storm deaths. Drdpw (talk) 01:40, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, put it under indirect as it was the lack of power that caused the hyper/hypothermia while the lack of power was caused by the storm (presumably Beryl). Beryl itself did not inflict hyper/hypothermia on people. ✶Qux yz ✶ 02:36, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Invest 97L notes

On my sandbox, I have been building up some notes for if Invest 97L becomes Debby. Feel free to add more info (especially on the Caribbean), but please back up with sources. ✶Qux yz ✶ 01:35, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Should PTC be added into the main article? If a PTC doesn't form, we don't add into the main article. And since we banned live updates since June 28, 2024, we should not have update on PTC, I think. Just a random Wikipedian^(talk) 15:11, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, active PTCs are not included. If a PTC fails to develop into a tropical system, then yes, as an other system. Drdpw (talk) 15:58, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, we’ve always included active PTCs in the article. Hurricanehink mobile (talk) 16:09, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with @Hurricanehink mobile in this situation, the practice has been to include PTCs. IrishSurfer21 (talk) 16:14, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Should the discussion about including PTCs be broken off into its own discussion on this talk page or the WikiProject talk page?IrishSurfer21 (talk) 16:20, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No need, I was in error. Drdpw (talk) 16:38, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Tropical Storm Debby (2024) has been made ✶Qux yz ✶ 22:54, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am noticing that I am struggling to find information not related to Florida; if someone could help with that, it'd be much appreciated. ✶Qux yz ✶ 22:39, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I published Debby's article. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 23:41, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ernesto draft

I have created an Ernesto draft as it is currently impacting the Leeward Islands and is forecasted to heavily impact some of the Greater Antilles and eventually Bermuda. Any expansion would be greatly appreciated. Shmego (talk) 12:55, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]